tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post116249476603506980..comments2023-12-26T02:50:32.816-05:00Comments on Bitter Leaf Fan Page: JFJ ReduxMF37http://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1163255595578191662006-11-11T09:33:00.000-05:002006-11-11T09:33:00.000-05:00Okay, I can concede this. I don't believe Ferguso...Okay, I can concede this. I don't believe Ferguson is capable of shrewd decision-making either.Wardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11789660413541650826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1163199127031492062006-11-10T17:52:00.000-05:002006-11-10T17:52:00.000-05:00Wardo, Pronger's $6.25 million salary more or less...Wardo, Pronger's $6.25 million salary more or less equals the combined salaries of Kaberle, Steen, Wellwood, and Bell. That was my point. Admittedly, I picked the 4 names that I thought would make my point the clearest, but you're correct that we could replace those 4 names with other names. If I changed the names to Kaberle, Steen (they have to be on the list as they were the trade bait), Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1163025948750646432006-11-08T17:45:00.000-05:002006-11-08T17:45:00.000-05:00Paul, I don't understand your reasoning that Prong...Paul, I don't understand your reasoning that Pronger's inclusion on the team somehow precludes 4 other bodies from being in the lineup. Wellwood and Bell are on the roster along with McCabe's eye-popping salary. If you're going to cherrypick a couple of names to equate salary figures, why not choose Westrum and Belak, or any other combination of guys?<BR/><BR/>I also don't buy the reasoning Wardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11789660413541650826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162936484587317942006-11-07T16:54:00.000-05:002006-11-07T16:54:00.000-05:00I wish I was that productive at work. LOLThe prob...I wish I was that productive at work. LOL<BR/><BR/>The problem with judging GMs on the trades they didn't make is you never really know whether the deal was actually on the table or not. No one will actually admit to it. Edmonton may have suggested Pronger for Kaberle and Steen only to drive up Anaheim's offer, and may have not had any intention of accepting such an offer, even if it had been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162614844898107472006-11-03T23:34:00.000-05:002006-11-03T23:34:00.000-05:00MF: Hey, I wasn't making a "ringing endorsement" o...MF: Hey, I wasn't making a "ringing endorsement" of Ferguson, exactly. I was trying to identify some positives in the moves he's made, and I admit they are weak. Not everything he's done is horrible...they just aren't so great. But I admit, I’m probably wearing my blue glasses when I say it because I’ve always had so much emotionally invested in the team. It’s like when you pay a lot of moneyWardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11789660413541650826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162598990828379232006-11-03T19:09:00.000-05:002006-11-03T19:09:00.000-05:00Hey I can't argue with you man. But he did one th...Hey I can't argue with you man. But he did one thing right. Signed Kaberle to a long term contract. Took genious to figure that one out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162586893603587372006-11-03T15:48:00.000-05:002006-11-03T15:48:00.000-05:00Paul - You had me at Anne Murray, that's all any o...<B>Paul</B> - You had me at Anne Murray, that's all any of us had to say.<BR/><BR/><B>Wardo</B> - I'd love to give JFJ more credit, but so many of the things you cite, to me, aren't exactly ringing endorsements of a solid GM. I don't mean to be curmudegonly, but:<BR/><BR/>1.) The D signings are ok. He overpaid for what he got and the team still can't keep the puck out of the net.<BR/><BR/>2.) TheMF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162580271302303922006-11-03T13:57:00.000-05:002006-11-03T13:57:00.000-05:00I agree with everything everyone has said so far e...I agree with everything everyone has said so far except for Wardo's suggestion that the Leafs should have traded Steen and Kaberle for Pronger. That would been a terrible move and the kind that the old Leafs would have made: A player on the down slope of his career for a defenceman entering his prime and a player that was 10th in rookie scoring. Not to mention that that sort of trade would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162577614687318902006-11-03T13:13:00.000-05:002006-11-03T13:13:00.000-05:00I agree Ferguson has to go.However, any analysis o...I agree Ferguson has to go.<BR/><BR/>However, any analysis of the bad things he's done has to include the good. And there are many good things recently, most importantly, landing Paul Maurice. Also, <BR/><BR/>1.) He acted decisively to sign more defense to the lineup, knowing this was the biggest hole on the team. When Kubina actually played, he and Gill noticeably improved the lineup.<BR/><Wardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11789660413541650826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162562036916589052006-11-03T08:53:00.000-05:002006-11-03T08:53:00.000-05:00Don't forget Anne Murray forgetting the words to M...Don't forget Anne Murray forgetting the words to Maple Leaf Forever and needing to look at her cheat card to get back on track. Who the Hell equates Anne Murray with the Leafs or hockey, anyway? Where were the Hip?<BR/><BR/>Despite all the negative things that had happened at the Gardens since 1967, it still was the home to 11 Stanley Cups, a 10 point night by the franchise's greatest player, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162516907083444282006-11-02T20:21:00.000-05:002006-11-02T20:21:00.000-05:00Paul - Well said...I should have mentioned Maurice...<B>Paul</B> - Well said...I should have mentioned Maurice and the firing of Quinn. That said, I wonder how much slack Maurice gets because he's brilliant with the media and how much he gets for being a good coach...<BR/><BR/><B>Jason</B> - As a PR guy who's done his share of events, there's something halting and awkward about the Leaf's approach and execution of their various ceremonies. <BR/><MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162512254855074422006-11-02T19:04:00.000-05:002006-11-02T19:04:00.000-05:00What was wrong with the MLG ceremony?What was wrong with the MLG ceremony?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-1162504345709573642006-11-02T16:52:00.000-05:002006-11-02T16:52:00.000-05:00While I agree with your assessment of JFJ's inepti...While I agree with your assessment of JFJ's ineptitude, and definitely agree with your conclusion that he shouldn't be retained beyond this season, to be fair we should point out the good moves he's made:<BR/><BR/>1. Fired Pat Quinn<BR/>2. Hired Paul Maurice<BR/>3. Fired Pat Quinn<BR/>4. Drafted Rask in 2005<BR/>5. Ummm, did I mention he fired Quinn?<BR/>6. Kaberle's contract<BR/><BR/>Also,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com