tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post1743572421783772250..comments2023-12-26T02:50:32.816-05:00Comments on Bitter Leaf Fan Page: The Phaneuf EraMF37http://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-82347199925145874722010-07-05T13:07:37.846-04:002010-07-05T13:07:37.846-04:00If Phaneuf being named as captain means we get to ...If Phaneuf being named as captain means we get to see more of Elisha Cuthbert, I'm all for it!Paul Steckleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-22632648296231039992010-06-25T11:57:06.379-04:002010-06-25T11:57:06.379-04:00I think Phanuef has an ego and feeding it by makin...I think Phanuef has an ego and feeding it by making him captain will help his game. I think he wants to be the man and this is his chance. The fact that he was already vocal with other players, and actually had the veritas to tell others what to do is what has made him according to those close to the team the logical and necessary choice. <br /><br />Having never attended a Leafs practise i Hebsie99noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-52494710228546255052010-06-18T13:37:41.872-04:002010-06-18T13:37:41.872-04:00The mystery captain is Corbeau. He was captain of...The mystery captain is Corbeau. He was captain of the '26-27 St. Pats and likely finished the season as such with the Leafs. Day would have started in '27-28, the Leafs first full season with the new name.<br /><br />So whether it's 17 or 18 depends on where you start counting.1967ershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145022218460291801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-56252683683882149302010-06-17T03:47:22.259-04:002010-06-17T03:47:22.259-04:00MapleStory private server servers<a href="http://xgametop.com/MapleStory.html" rel="nofollow">MapleStory private server servers</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-43326120302780821742010-06-16T21:46:30.669-04:002010-06-16T21:46:30.669-04:00It is to laugh. You take issue with my "trip...It is to laugh. You take issue with my "tripe", yet think it acceptable to indulge in vulgarity.<br /><br />I see. I've intruded upon your domain. So long as you can feed yourself with the delusion that every Leafs fan hangs upon your every opinion, all is well. But I have dared to question you and even offered a counter-position. I am therefore to be ridiculed. Perhaps in theXalvionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-67605980182214075362010-06-16T01:18:47.279-04:002010-06-16T01:18:47.279-04:00Xalvion - I'll take your points in order.
It&...<b>Xalvion</b> - I'll take your points in order.<br /><br />It's your supposition that so-called winning Leaf teams were built on hard work. Name them. Seriously. If you want to argue it, back it up.<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, successful Leaf teams have been far and few between in the last 43 years and most of the ones that have found success have had a pretty talented group MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-70593950260132243992010-06-16T00:37:48.349-04:002010-06-16T00:37:48.349-04:00MF37:
First of all, why do you need me to list wi...MF37:<br /><br />First of all, why do you need me to list winning Leafs teams? You've got the same access to that information as I do. If you're asking so as to attempt to prove that examples I might cite were in fact "flashy" teams, then I'll back out of this debate right now. If you honestly can't see the difference between successful Leafs teams and, say, the Xalvionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-92121059385922102262010-06-15T23:43:52.928-04:002010-06-15T23:43:52.928-04:00Xalvion - the Leafs, as an organization, have alwa...<b>Xalvion</b> - <i>the Leafs, as an organization, have always won through hard work, as opposed to flash. </i><br /><br />a) Name the Leaf team(s) that were "winners"<br />b) Name any team that ever won on flash alone.<br /><br />As for my issues with Phaneuf being named captain, forgive me if I'm not being clear. My concerns are two-fold:<br /><br />1) Will the added MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-75258946411547457212010-06-15T23:34:05.799-04:002010-06-15T23:34:05.799-04:00MF37 - You're missing my point entirely. I ne...MF37 - You're missing my point entirely. I never made any comparison between today's media realities and those of the past. My position is, I don't CARE about the media angle, at least not nearly as much as I care about his leadership qualities.<br /><br />My reason for citing past Leafs teams had nothing to do with the media. My point was simply that the Leafs, as an organization,Xalvionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-4002586320629256142010-06-15T23:22:51.633-04:002010-06-15T23:22:51.633-04:00You are very bitter MF.. :)You are very bitter MF.. :)Syddavenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-49672990538295038592010-06-15T20:07:50.398-04:002010-06-15T20:07:50.398-04:00Xalvion - Comparing today's media landscape to...<b>Xalvion</b> - Comparing today's media landscape to the 1960s is like comparing lightning to a lightning bug. Former Leaf captain George Armstrong told the Sun that in the 1960s he did one media interview each year.<br /><br />Comparing today's hockey to what was played when the Leafs last won the Cup is like comparing Paris, France to Paris, Las Vegas.<br /><br />Even the Leaf teams MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-61343157664878644042010-06-15T20:02:08.327-04:002010-06-15T20:02:08.327-04:00Pat - All of the Leafs, from the time they were pr...<b>Pat</b> - All of the Leafs, from the time they were prospects, get media training.<br /><br />But my concern with Phaneuf is not the training, so much as it's his temperament. I want this guy to be the Norris trophy nominee he once was. I don't think putting more on his plate and making his life more complicated is the best way to help him re-discover his game.MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-80198541879838737782010-06-15T19:49:20.250-04:002010-06-15T19:49:20.250-04:00When you look at the history of this franchise, wh...When you look at the history of this franchise, whether going back to their Stanley Cup winning teams or the more recent glimpses of (admittedly lesser) success, I'd say that Phaneuf is the perfect captain for the Leafs. What kind of team has Toronto iced over the years? While the Habs had their firewagon hockey and the Bruins and Flyers had their thuggery, the Leafs (when successful) have Xalvionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-75094965174868349282010-06-15T16:30:12.651-04:002010-06-15T16:30:12.651-04:00Given that Burke, Wilson and MLSE are well aware o...Given that Burke, Wilson and MLSE are well aware of the media pressure that players (especially captains) have to deal with in major hockey markets, I wonder how much coaching and other resources (sports psychologists?) have been or will be devoted to helping Dion deal with the media. I can't imagine he'll be going into these scrums without top-notch preparatory tips & training from Pat Verbeeknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-55808813746771717552010-06-15T11:50:08.415-04:002010-06-15T11:50:08.415-04:00An interesting question to ponder is what makes a ...An interesting question to ponder is what makes a good captain? What would the perfect captain look like? I would start with them being the hardest worker on the team and the one to stand up and face the media after difficult losses. <br /><br />burke was quoted as saying leaf praticeses were like "church services" before Phanuef arrived. No one yelling for the puck or at other Hebsie99noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-62679229973201218552010-06-15T09:04:24.159-04:002010-06-15T09:04:24.159-04:00Coach Willie D'oh! I can't believe I misse...<b>Coach Willie</b> D'oh! I can't believe I missed Apps and Kennedy's double shot at captain. Thanks for pointing that out. The list makes more sense now.MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-22228119728256532722010-06-15T09:03:39.638-04:002010-06-15T09:03:39.638-04:00Stephen
1) When picking comparables for articula...<b>Stephen</b> <br /><br />1) When picking comparables for articulation why not go with a hockey man instead of one of the 20th century's greatest speakers? Seems a bit asymmetrical, no?<br /><br />2) It's not about being articulate, it's about being media savvy. Clark and Gilmour were both great with the media and the media loved them. Phaneuf is about the glare, the grunt, and the MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-50113869687219881012010-06-15T08:56:14.713-04:002010-06-15T08:56:14.713-04:00Re the media skills.
1) He just needs to be willi...Re the media skills.<br /><br />1) He just needs to be willing to answer all questions. Nobody says he has to be Winston Churchill, thats a media need not anybody elses.<br /><br />2) Doug Gilmour and Wendel were hardly the most articulate guys after a loss, Gilmour in particular.<br /><br />3) Does he care about winning?, that remains to be seen but evidence so far seems to be a strong Stephennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-53800280838538110462010-06-14T23:21:42.824-04:002010-06-14T23:21:42.824-04:00Well some of the captains served twice which cause...Well some of the captains served twice which causes the confusion. Apps and Kennedy served twice. So do you double count them?Coach Williehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082682885593572071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-49797987665039805402010-06-14T18:20:22.368-04:002010-06-14T18:20:22.368-04:00The leafs said that he's the 18th leaf captain...The leafs said that he's the 18th leaf captain and 22nd overall (assuming they're counting the st pats as well?)<br />but then they also say we only have 11 Stanley Cups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-59721989670621860442010-06-14T18:04:13.128-04:002010-06-14T18:04:13.128-04:00Yeah, Wikipedia's all over the place too. They...Yeah, Wikipedia's all over the place too. They called Sundin the sixteenth Captain so I called Phaneuf 17 over on the blog.<br /><br />Whatever.Chemmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15876764848455502787noreply@blogger.com