tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post8548047726451207945..comments2023-12-26T02:50:32.816-05:00Comments on Bitter Leaf Fan Page: If You're Gonna Stay Show Some Mercy TodayMF37http://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-26850005501879058012008-06-04T12:49:00.000-04:002008-06-04T12:49:00.000-04:00What are you talking about Paul? Sundin never sai...What are you talking about Paul? Sundin never said he didn’t want to live in a hotel for four months. That was not the reason given and you are making things up for him now. The only reason he gave was because he did not believe in the rental concept. A reason I find absurd. You are trying to rationalize why it was okay for Sundin to say no so you do not have to face your anger towards him Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-56173396996552828792008-06-04T12:47:00.000-04:002008-06-04T12:47:00.000-04:00I feel the need to further address one of the poin...I feel the need to further address one of the points that MF37 made, that forms part of the foundation of the argument that Sundin was justified; that hockey players are mercenaries. You said that argument is not wrong, just your perspective. True, but some perspectives are subjective, and others objective. I could perceive the world is flat and created in seven days. My perception would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-30590863042788629492008-06-03T18:13:00.000-04:002008-06-03T18:13:00.000-04:00Hebsie99,I think you're wrong about how prevalent ...Hebsie99,<BR/><BR/>I think you're wrong about how prevalent selfish motives are in human decisions, but we can save that discussion for another forum.<BR/><BR/>I don't agree that Sundin's decision was stupid, simply because there are no guarantees in life. Sundin could have been traded to a contender but there is no guarantee that he would win a Cup with them. Richards didn't help Dallas reach Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-63372993115954038772008-06-03T10:50:00.000-04:002008-06-03T10:50:00.000-04:00Paul,I disagree with two keys points. First, not ...Paul,<BR/><BR/>I disagree with two keys points. First, not everyone is selfish. And not every decision is based on selfish motives. Maybe it is wrong to call what Sundin did as selfish; I certainly agree he had no legal obligation to accept trade. I guess maybe a better word is stupid. He made the decision for stupid reasons. <BR/><BR/>How much better is it to win a Stanley cup with a new Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-25000417915302031332008-06-02T16:25:00.000-04:002008-06-02T16:25:00.000-04:00Hebsie99, I'm trying to understand your logic here...Hebsie99, I'm trying to understand your logic here, and I must admit I'm not succeeding. <BR/><BR/>To start, let's be honest and just admit that everyone is selfish, and virtually every decision we ever make is selfish. We always decide on a course of action that we feel is best for ourselves, and follow it. That is simply a basic human trait. A minute number of decisions in human history Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-89063931189695443912008-06-02T13:18:00.000-04:002008-06-02T13:18:00.000-04:00Hebsie99 wrote - This example is completely errone...<B>Hebsie99 wrote</B> - <I>This example is completely erroneous. You cannot compare asking Blake or Tucker to retire to asking Sundin to waive his no trade clause...</I><BR/><BR/>It was a joke. You know: ha ha (or in this case not so much ha ha).<BR/><BR/><I>Did Sundin have a right to say no to the trade request? Yes. Absolutely. But to describe hockey players as mercenaries who owe nothing to MF37https://www.blogger.com/profile/10238252282255067686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-67146819054774018402008-06-02T11:31:00.000-04:002008-06-02T11:31:00.000-04:00This example is completely erroneous. You cannot ...This example is completely erroneous. You cannot compare asking Blake or Tucker to retire to asking Sundin to waive his no trade clause. The circumstances are not the same and the effect on the player is not the same. Of course Tucker and Blake would say no. Its apples and oranges and does not nothing to further your point.<BR/><BR/>Did Sundin have a right to say no to the trade request? YesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-17140789330941160562008-05-30T22:45:00.000-04:002008-05-30T22:45:00.000-04:00In my mind Sundin waiving his no trade clause woul...In my mind Sundin waiving his no trade clause would have been against the team's best interest. MLSE has to be taught that they can't install a useful idiot into the GM's position and then get bailed out by their players.<BR/><BR/>I know Mats disowned the "it's not my job to fix JFJ's mistakes" quote, but I wish he didn't. The managemebt at MLSE is unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>And as I watch Detroittbothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13484956085100345297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24746874.post-57694604312548878972008-05-30T20:34:00.000-04:002008-05-30T20:34:00.000-04:00the example you've given is perfect. it shows the ...the example you've given is perfect. it shows the other side of the coin and proves that sundin owes us, the fans, not a damn thing. <BR/><BR/>we can't ask blake and tucker to retire for the same reason we couldn't ask sundin to move or re-sign at a discount. <BR/><BR/>the fans only want what's convenient for them. sundin's got to look out for his own.Navin Vaswani (@eyebleaf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08445618400360263938noreply@blogger.com