Showing posts with label Leafs Training Camp. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Leafs Training Camp. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

Competition in Camp and other white lies

The Leafs have invited 60+ players to this year's training camp. That's about 40 more players than they have room for.

Of the seven d-spots on the roster, at least five are already locked down:
1. Phaneuf
2. Komisarek
3. Beauchmin
4. Kaberle
5. Schenn

That leaves three bubble guys(Gunnarsson, Lebda and Finger) in the hunt to be the sixth d-man and 7thD/press-box boy. The other 14 candidates will head to the Marlies, the Leafs ECHL affiliate in Reading or their junior teams.

Up front the Leafs usually carry 13 forwards.

One look at the roster and it's clear that two thirds of those spots are filled:
1. Armstrong
2. Bozak
3. Brown
4. Grabovski
5. Kessel
6. Kulemin
7. Orr
8. Sjostrom(injured)
9. Versteeg

That means 29 forwards are "competing" for just four spots. You have to think MacArthur, Mitchell, Caputi, Hanson and Kadri are the inside favourites here - and the other 25 guys are pretty much pre-season tourists.

Six goalies are in camp, but the Leafs are set with JS Giguere and Jonas Gustavsson...

Look, I get that a lot of these kids are in camp for reasons that have little to do with the 2010-11 Toronto Maple Leafs. For some, it's about rewarding a strong rookie camp; for others it's the cliched "giving them a taste of what it takes to be in the pros." For the goalies, it's a chance to work alongside Francois Allaire. I also expect that cuts will come fast and furious, whittling down the camp to more manageable numbers.

I'm also all for a so-called environment of competition, but one look at the numbers and it's clear that any competition in camp is amongst guys who'll be playing maybe six to eight minutes a night (or sitting in the press box for long stretches).

When Ron Wilson complains about lack of practice time and the team's inability to work on systems during the pre-season I hope a reporter (or a blogger willing to post his $10,000 bond) asks why the team invited 60+ guys to a camp that has six jobs available.




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Monday, September 21, 2009

Leafs Camp Cuts: And then there were 33?

The Globe and the Sun are reporting that the Leafs have made another round of cuts at training camp, paring the roster down to 34 33 players.

Forwards
1. Allison, Jason
2. Blake, Jason
Boyce, Darryl
3. Bozak, Tyler
4. Brent, Tim
Champagne, Joel
Devane, Jamie
Deveaux, Andre
Foster, Alex
Giliati, Stefano
5. Grabovski, Mikhail
Greenop, Richard
6. Hagman, Niklas
Hamilton, Ryan
7. Hanson, Christian
8. Kadri, Nazem
9. Kulemin, Nikolai
10. Kurtz, John
11. Mayers, Jamal
Mitchell, Dale
12. Mitchell, John
Ondrus, Ben
13. Orr, Colton
14. Ponikarovsky, Alexei
15. Primeau, Wayne
Rogers, Kyle
Rosehill, Jay
Scott, Greg
Slaney, Robert
16. Stalberg, Viktor
17. Stajan, Matt
Stefanovich, Mikhail
18. Stempniak, Lee
19. Tlusty, Jiri
20. Wallin, Rickard

Defence
21. Beauchemin, Francois
Blacker, Jesse
Engel, Josh
22. Exelby, Garnet
23. Finger, Jeff
24. Frogren, Jonas
25. Gunnarsson, Carl
26. Kaberle, Tomas
27. Komisarek, Mike
Manning, Brandon
Mikus, Juraj
Oreskovic, Phil
Perry, Todd
Rogers, Andy
Ryan, Joe
28. Schenn, Luke
Smith, Barron
Uotila, Juha
29. Van Ryn, Mike
30. White, Ian

Goaltenders
Engelage, Andrew
Erickson, Beau
31. Gustavsson, Jonas
32. MacDonald, Joey
Reimer, James
33. Toskala, Vesa

The only player that seems quite out of place on this roster is John Kurtz, an over-ager from the OHL's Sudbury Wolves (who's apparently injured). Mike Van Ryn is also on the IR (I know, I know - I'm shocked too).

The CBA dictates that teams have to be down to a 23 man active roster the day before the first game of the season, which means the Leafs have until September 30th to make their final cuts.

Coach Wilson has said he plans on carrying 13 forwards, eight Defence and two goalies. If that is the case, the team will need to cut seven guys up front (Kurtz and Brent are no-brainers, Kadri is heading back to junior, which means four more guys have to go); 2 more D-men (or Van Ryn stays on the IR and Gunnarsson goes back to the Marlies) and 1 goalie (safe money is on Joey Mac).

Thursday, September 03, 2009

Toronto Maple Leaf Roster: Waiver Status

I don’t think the much discussed (and increasingly tiresome) term “truculence” will be the big issue for the 2009-2010 Maple Leafs. I think the Penalty Kill (discussed earlier here) and waiver rules are likely to have a far bigger impact on this team than their new found ferocity.

Why waivers? Well, as much as I mocked the notion of significant competition in Leafs camp, the Leafs have enough 4th line talent that it's almost certain the club will expose several players to get down to a 23 man roster.

Burke may have "lost" talent to the waiver wire in the past, but it's one thing to find marginal players an NHL home (e.g. Mark Bell, Staffan Kronwall) and quite another when it's a Mitchell, Frogren or Tlusty that's lost for nothing - especially if that player is lost so an aging vet can get 4th line minutes. (Mayers, Primeau and Allison - I'm looking at you.)

Forwards: 13 Spots and 18 Players

With 13 spots up for grabs, who are the locks at forward to make the line-up?

1. Jason Blake
2. Niklas Hagman
3. Mikhail Grabovski
4. Lee Stempniak
5. Alexei Ponikarovsky
6. Matthew Stajan
7. Nikolai Kulemin
8. Colton Orr

If the Leafs are going to carry 13 forwards, four of the following nine won’t make the club:

9. Christian Hanson
10. Jiri Tlusty
11. Tyler Bozak
12. Wayne Primeau
13. Jamal Mayers
14. Viktor Stalberg
15. Rickard Wallin
16. John Mitchell
17. Jason Allison

Keep in mind that Hanson, Bozak and Stalberg can all be sent to the Marlies without having to clear waivers, giving Burke a bit of early season flexibility. Tlusty too, although he loses his waiver exemption status once he plays 8 more NHL games (good thing JFJ burned a year of his eligibility so he could play him nine minutes a night in 14 games).

I didn’t forget him, but Nazem Kadri isn’t making this club. Even a nine game look (10 pro games and he burns a year of his contract) means exposing another player on the team and I can’t see that happening so an 18 year old can have his cup of coffee.

Numbers Game on D

If the Leafs carry 13 forwards, they have room for eight d-men. Book Komisarek, Kaberle, Beauchemin, Finger and Schenn (in no particular order) as the top five.

Who’s kidding who, Gunnarsson and Oreskovic aren't making this team out of camp. That means one of Frogren, Exelby, White and Van Ryn will be traded or waived. My guess is Van Ryn will be traded (or injured), failing that, Frogren will hit the waiver wire/ be demoted to the Marlies.

Vesa and the Monster

If you think Burke spent the off-season travelling repeatedly to Sweden to woo a guy to play for the Marlies, raise your hand.

That’s what I figured.

Joey Mac will be seeing a lot of Ricoh Coliseum this season.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Waiver Status by Position

Forwards

Player

Waiver Exempt?

Jason Blake No
Niklas Hagman No
Mikhail Grabovski No
Lee Stempniak No
Alexei Ponikarovsky No
Matthew Stajan No
Nikolai Kulemin No
Wayne Primeau No
Jamal Mayers No
Colton Orr No
Rickard Wallin No
John Mitchell No
Jason Allison No
Tyler Bozak Yes
Christian Hanson Yes
Viktor Stalberg Yes
Nazem Kadri Yes
Jiri Tlusty Yes - 8 games remaining

Defence
Player Waiver Exempt?
Mike Komisarek No
Tomas Kaberle No
Francois Beauchemin No
Jeff Finger No
Mike Van Ryn No
Garnet Exelby No
Jonas Frogren No
Ian White No
Luke Schenn Yes
Carl Gunnarsson Yes
Phil Oreskovic Yes

Goalies
Player Waiver Exempt?
Vesa Toskala No
Jonas Gustavsson Yes
Joey MacDonald No

Tuesday, September 01, 2009

Competition at Leafs Training Camp?

One of the most common Leaf storylines this summer is the "more competition in Leafs camp" angle (Well,other than at least half-a-dozen or so ridiculous trade rumours - Brayden Schenn to the Leafs? Canuck please.)

With 23 roster spots to fill and maybe 28 NHL-ready bodies the Leafs have, if not a modicum of depth, at least some options at each position.

Let's put it this way: there may be competition for jobs in the Leafs camp, but it's closer to the cringe inducing early rounds of American idol than the Red v. White scrimmages at the Canadian Olympic hockey camp in Calgary.

Certainly, people are welcome to say “no jobs are safe” but that’s not remotely true. No top-line jobs are up for grabs at Leafs camp. In fact,most Leaf fans could name 16 of the 23 players that will be on the Leafs roster opening night.

The spots that are in question – the back-up goalie, 6th and 7th (and possibly 8th) D-men and a set of 4th line forwards – aren’t exactly game breakers.

Burke could invite 75 players to try-out for the Leafs and the club's spotty forward ranks wouldn't change much. The arrival of Jason Allison is just one more indication of how thin the Leafs are on top-line talent.

It should also be noted that this situation isn't exactly new.

An argument could be made that Joey MacDonald is just this year's Clemmenson (who was, what, the 2006 Aubin?). Wayne Primeau is a cheaper Mark Bell (or is it Boyd Devereaux?) and Rickard Wallin is this years’ Simon Gamache.

Let’s not forget, a year ago the Leafs entered training camp with 9 NHL-caliber D-men competing for seven spots and the club transformed that depth and that competitoin into Lee Stempniak and an 86 point season.

Something to keep in mind with 12 days to go until the Leafs' camp opens.

Thursday, September 11, 2008

29 Years Later

Leafs Win! When I was a boy, the Toronto Maple Leafs and McClelland and Stewart (don’t look for them, they’re not there anymore) published a cloth cover book on the upcoming 1979-80 Leafs' season.

I read that book so many times the spine is broken, the pages are frayed and the dust jacket is a nothing but a long-lost memory.

It was published at a time of real optimism for the Leafs. The team was just two years removed from their playoff upset over the New York Islanders and, even though they had gone down four straight to the dreaded Montreal Canadiens in the Quarter Finals, game 3 had gone to double OT and game 4 was lost in OT on a questionable call against Dave “Tiger” Williams.

This was a time when Sittler still wore the C, MacDonald patrolled his wing, an optimistic Ron Wilson started the season on IR and a porn ‘stached Palmateer protected the pipes.

popcorn kid
As thoughts turn to this year’s training camp with its new coaches and new rosters, I couldn’t help but be reminded of this book and its in-depth player profiles including expectations for the 79-80 season and a day-by-day prĂ©cis of the Leafs training camp.

Now, I’m not suggesting this year’s Leaf season will have any resemblance to that horrible one 30 years ago.

First of all, the year ahead for the 2008-09 Leafs certainly isn’t starting off with the same patina of optimism. Secondly, I seriously doubt the Leafs could hit the same low points as that fateful year that saw the MacDonald trade, Sittler ripping off his C and the start of a twelve year run of the team posting a losing record (yeah, you read that right – the Leafs were under .500 for twelve straight seasons: 1979-80 to 1992-93. Keep that in mind when the media wring their hands over the past three years.).

That summer also saw Ballard and Imlach pursue legal action all the way to the Ontario Supreme court in an effort to keep Sittler and Palmateer from participating in Showdown - a televised skills competition between NHL players. (There's a great collection of Showdown videos from the CBC archives here. Man I LOVED this show as a kid.)

With that caveat out of the way and in anticipation of the Leafs training camp to come, I thought I’d go back through one of my favourite childhood books, violate all sorts of copyright laws, scan a few photos, and have a look at some interesting quotes, thoughts and anecdotes from the Leafs 29 years ago this September…

The World From on High: An Interview with Harold Ballard

The book begins with a long, very wide-ranging interview between Time Magazine reporter John Gault and Harold Ballard, including a lengthy discussion between Gault and Ballard on the Neilson firing, re-hiring (the infamous paper bag incident). I promise I’ll post that whole exchange soon.

There are some interesting echoes in this interview - meddling owners, bad trades and the need for better scouting, as captured in the exchange below:

John Gault: Who’s been traded away, in the past five years, say, that you wish you had back?
Harold Ballard: Well, Rick Kehoe for instance, who went to Pittsburgh. Carlyle should have been kept here. And I think that probably Jack Valiquette should have stayed.

Gault: The return on players you’ve sent to other teams hasn’t been that great in the past while, has it?
Ballard: No. We’ve traded away some pretty good hockey players.

Gault: Yes, and it could be argued that you didn’t exactly get your return on your dollars
Ballard: You don’t have to argue about it, it’s a fact.

Gault: Why?
Ballard: I don’t think our scouting system was that good or they wouldn’t have agreed to make those trades. Now you’ve said that I try to run everything. I don’t. When they were going to make a deal, I’d say to [former GM Jim] Gregory ‘Are you sure you’re going to do it?’ You see, they would have gotten rid of Turnbull if I hadn’t asserted myself last year and stopped it. Roger and Gregory wanted to get rid of Turnbull and I wouldn’t allow it. He couldn’t get along with the coach, so the coach wanted to get rid of him. As a matter of fact, Roger was quite adamant about it and I said: ‘Look, if he’s going to go, you’re going to go to.’ It was that bad.

Gault: I doubt that Neilson would have argued that Turnbull wasn’t a good hockey player
Ballard: Well he did. He had these ‘points’ He was a great guy with those replays, those little pictures you know. And he used to pick out all the bad things Turnbull did, but he didn’t pick out many good things...

I love that Ballard seems totally put off by Neilson’s use of video replay, or as he calls it: “those little pictures.”

A Guide to the Opposition

The late Frank Orr, formerly of the Toronto Star, provides an overview of all 20 NHL teams the Leafs would face in 1979-80, including the four new WHA teams that joined the NHL: Edmonton, Quebec, Hartford and Winnipeg.

Here are a few of the highlights:

The Sabres are trying something new with a “coaching staff” approach - Scotty Bowman hired Roger Neilson and Jim Roberts as Assistant Coaches. Don Cherry said of the approach: “Scotty wants assistants so he’ll have someone to blame if something goes wrong.” Bowman’s take: “I agree with the Europeans. They can’t understand why NHL teams have figured one coach could do the job. It’s just too complex for that now.”

1979-80 was the first season for the Oilers and they sold 14,600 season tickets within 11 days of tickets going on sale. Coach Glen Sather says he has his highest hopes for young Swedish forward Bengt Gustavsson [who never played a game for the Oilers, the Capitals claimed him at the expansion draft in June, 1979.]

The Whalers roster included a 51 year old Gordie Howe and coach Don Blackburn says he wants to experiment with moving left-wing Mark Howe (42-23-65 in 1978) back to defence.

The New York Islanders (that season’s Stanley Cup champs) only had one skater over 28 on their roster and their entire core (Trottier, Bossy, Gillies, Potvin, etc.) were under 25.

The Penguins were having attendance problems and were facing red ink.

In the 1970s, free agents were anything but. The Red Wings signed “Free Agent” goaltender Rogie Vachon from the LA Kings and had to compensate the Kings for the signing. The teams couldn’t agree on fair compensation and the Kings asked for, and were awarded, Dale McCourt – the Wings’ leading rookie scorer. McCourt refused to report to LA and the dispute ended up in the US courts. The lower court upheld the original compensation. McCourt and the Wings appealed the decision, but before a second court date was set, the Wings and Kings agreed to an alternate compensation and McCourt was “dealt” back to the Wings.

The Flyers got a first round pick for what has to be the oddest named twosome ever dealt: Orest Kindrachuk and Ross Lonsberry.

Training Camp September, 1979

Leaf veterans arrived in camp with a new coach (Floyd Smith) and a new GM (Punch Imlach) as GM Jim Gregory and Coach Roger Neilson were both fired over the summer.

When Nielson returned to the Gardens as the assistant coach of the Sabres for a pre-season game, the Leafs refused to let him sit in the press box. Imlach said, "If Neilson wants to coach, let him coach from behind the bench. He won't be able to do it from our press box." (You stay classy Imlach!)

Looking to add some grit to the line-up, Imlach offered Jim Dorey a try-out with the Leafs. Ten years earlier, Dorey set an NHL record with nine penalties - four minors, two majors, two 10 minute misconducts and a game misconduct - in just two periods of play. [After being cut by the Leafs, Dorey would go on to play 32 games that year for the Nordiques and then call it a career.]

The Leafs played 12 exhibition games including matches in Moncton, NB; Ottawa, ON, Kitchener, ON; and against the Canadian Olympic team in Calgary (the Leafs lost to the Olympians 6-5, Lanny had a hat-trick. Apparently the Leafs had trouble with the Olympians speed. And no, I didn't just make that up...)

The Leafs played the Habs in game 11 of their pre-season and actually won. It was the first time the Leafs had beaten Montreal in 25 straight meetings. The Leafs hadn't beaten Montreal in an exhibition, regular season or playoff game since November 1, 1976.

Future Washington Capitals coach Bruce Budreau was amongst the Leafs last cuts at camp, getting sent to Moncton on day 17.

Interesting to note that this club would produce at least four NHL coaches in Quennville, Anderson, Boudreau and Ron Wilson (and one cottage-country bar owner in Walt McKechnie).

Money quotes:

"I guess having a new coach always creates a little feeling of unrest because you wonder about the style of hockey he'll want the team to use and how you'll fit into it." - Ron Wilson.

"There are some holes in our team, aren't there?" - Floyd Smith

The Players

off to Colorado

Each of the 24 Leafs who made the team out of training camp are profiled at the end of the book. It's the standard 20 questions format - why hockey, what would you be doing if you weren't in the NHL, superstitions, activities away from the rink, personal goals...Here's a look at the highlights:

"I like the hours. It's not a nine to five job. You have the summers off to do what you want and, of course, the money isn't bad." - John Anderson on the Pros and Cons of Sports Celebrity.

"I would have liked to get into a veterinary line of work or work with wildlife" - Dan Maloney on alternate career prospects.

"I never set personal goals for myself; the only goal is the Stanley Cup. When you start setting personal goals you're putting pressure on yourself and that kind of pressure you don't need. When I get my first goal I'll go for number two and so on. You take whatever comes. Winning the Stanley Cup and playing international hockey: that's the ultimate, to play for your country. I've already done one and, hopefully, befoer the end of my career, I'll accomplish the other." - Lanny MacDonald

"Amityville Horror and Penthouse are favourites." - Joel Quennville on what he likes to read.

"Mr. Ballard. Yeah, I'm serious." - Dave "Tiger" Williams on his favourite opponent

"I'll just play until I stop enjoying it. If I don't play a lot this year or next year I may hang up the game because it's no fun sitting on the bench." - Ron Wilson In 29 Years, I'll be in charge

Thursday, September 27, 2007

Down to 37?

Down to 37?

I checked the Marlies scoring results from their first exhibition game in order to cross a few more names off the Leafs roster. I'm sure more cuts have been made...based on last night's 7-2 drubbing and their lacklustre play to date, the Leafs may be hard pressed to find 23 players that deserve to remain with the big club.

Forwards
Antropov, Nik
Aubin, Brent
Battaglia, Bates
Belak, Wade
Bell, Mark (Suspended)
Blake, Jason
Boyce, Darryl
Devereaux, Boyd
Earl, Robbie
Foster, Alex
Gamache, Simon
Kilger, Chad
Leveille, Michel
Ling, David
Mitchell, Dale
Mitchell, John
Murphy, Colin
Newbury, Kris
Ondrus, Ben
Perrott, Nathan
Pohl, John
Ponikarovsky, Alexei
Salmelainen, Tony
Stajan, Matt
Steen, Alex
Sundin, Mats
Tlusty, Jiri
Tucker, Darcy
Wellwood, Kyle (IR)
Williams, Jeremy

Defence
Cashman, Reid
Colaiacovo, Carlo
Gill, Hal
Harrington, Chris
Harrison, Jay
Kaberle, Tomas
Kronwall, Staffan
Kubina, Pavel
McCabe, Bryan
Muir, Bryan
Oreskovic, Phil
Perry, Todd
St. Jacques, Bruno
Sifers, Jaime
Stralman, Anton
Walser, Derrick
White, Ian
Wozniewski, Andy

Goalies
Clemmensen, Scott
Ford, Todd
Pogge, Justin
Raycroft, Andrew
Reimer, James
Toskala, Vesa

Monday, September 24, 2007

And then there were 40?

Earlier in the week, leaf coach Paul Maurice told the Toronto Sun, "By the time the Boston game is over, I'd like to pretty much have in place the team we hope to start the season with."

By my (admittedly unofficial and likely sloppy) count there are still about 39 players in camp.

As the Leafs haven't formally announced all of the cuts, here's my best guess as to which players are still fighting for work with the big club:

Forwards
Antropov, Nik
Aubin, Brent
Battaglia, Bates
Belak, Wade
Bell, Mark (Suspended)
Blake, Jason
Boyce, Darryl
Devereaux, Boyd (IR)
Earl, Robbie
Foster, Alex
Gamache, Simon
Kilger, Chad
Leveille, Michel
Ling, David
Mitchell, Dale
Mitchell, John
Murphy, Colin
Newbury, Kris
Ondrus, Ben
Perrott, Nathan
Pohl, John
Ponikarovsky, Alexei
Salmelainen, Tony
Stajan, Matt
Steen, Alex
Sundin, Mats
Tlusty, Jiri
Tucker, Darcy
Wellwood, Kyle (IR)
Williams, Jeremy

Defence
Cashman, Reid
Colaiacovo, Carlo
Gill, Hal
Harrington, Chris
Harrison, Jay
Kaberle, Tomas
Kronwall, Staffan
Kubina, Pavel
McCabe, Bryan
Muir, Bryan
Oreskovic, Phil
Perry, Todd
St. Jacques, Bruno
Sifers, Jaime
Stralman, Anton
Walser, Derrick
White, Ian
Wozniewski, Andy

Goalies
Clemmensen, Scott
Ford, Todd
Pogge, Justin
Raycroft, Andrew
Reimer, James
Toskala, Vesa

Tuesday, September 11, 2007

Two Days to Camp

Over two months without so much as a post - it's like Brian Bradley took over or something (I couldn't remember my blogger password when I went to log-in this evening...)

The 2007-08 Leafs training camp opens in just two more days and yet it seems oddly silent in Leafs Nation...with so few roster spots open and no cap room to play with, it seems like this year's roster has been set for some time. Yet, I read somewhere the Leafs expect to have 50+ players in camp. If/when the Blue and White get off to a slow start this season, look for pundits and columnists everywhere to question why so many players were in camp with so few spots up for grab (wasn't this the story-line post lockout when the Sens had a stripped down camp and came out flying, or did I just make that up?)

Speaking of making stuff up, the rules of grammar and solid editing still don't apply to Ms. DiManno at the Star. Rosie remains in desperate need of an editor (or she thinks she's some sort of hockey poet). Yeah, I know this comes from a guy who's good for a typo/ screwed up clause every 100 words or so...but seriously, Rosie - at least read your copy before you hit send.

Speaking of reading your copy before you hit send, JFJ's latest blog entry admits that last year was just about making the playoffs (oops) while this year is about competing for the cup (WTF?).

The good news is: if JFJ comes through on this year's plan the same way he's delivered every year since taking over the role of GM...oh, wait a minute, that's not right....um, ok, so the Leafs will likely make the playoffs this year (yay!) and then fall short of actually competing (boo!). Hell, even Eugene Melnyk would like the Leafs to be more competitive this year. (I'd like to welcome Eugene to Leafs Nation and may I suggest that if Melnyk really wants the Leafs - Sens rivalry to be more competitive, he should immediately offer JFJ a senior role with the Sens organization.)

And finally, the biggest issue heading into camp isn't Mark Bell's rapidly developing shiv-making skills, but the new Leafs jersey. MLSE/ NHL unveil the new look swater on Wednesday, September 12 at 3 PM. Mike Ulmer has a nice look at how the uniform has evolved, complete with some pretty sweet jerseys from the past...I'm looking forward to seeing the new Leaf jersey, it certainly can't be any worse than Vancouver's (can it?).